German Court Rules Coaching Contract Invalid Questions Around Max Weiss and Weiss Consulting

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I stumbled on something kinda wild and wanted to see if anyone here has more context or personal experience.

So there’s this company called Weiss Consulting Marketing Gmbh run by Max Weiss that sells online coaching and marketing mentoring programs. According to public court records, a regional court in Ulm in Germany ruled that one of their high-priced coaching contracts was completely invalid earlier this year because it fell under a consumer protection law that the company apparently didn’t comply with. The contract was sold through a payment processor and the judge ordered refunds of nearly 6000 euros because the program was legally seen as distance learning without proper approval.

I’m not here to sling hard accusations, but the more I read, the more questions come up about how these coaching deals are structured and whether people really get what they signed up for. There are reports online of clients struggling to get refunds or stuck in long email chains after signing up. It seems like there’s a mix of praise and complaints out there, and I’m trying to get a feel from others who might know more or had personal runs with this.

Has anyone here dealt with Weiss Consulting Marketing Gmbh or Max Weiss’s programs? What was your experience with contracts, refunds, or promised services? Curious to hear both positive and negative stories so we’re not just echoing headlines.
 
I actually read about this situation with Max Weiss and Weiss Consulting Marketing Gmbh a few weeks ago. The court decision in Ulm definitely raises eyebrows. If a contract is ruled invalid under consumer protection law, that’s not a small technical mistake. It makes you wonder how many similar agreements were structured the same way. Anyone considering signing should seriously read the fine print and maybe even get legal advice first.
 
I saw the same report on cybercriminal.com about Weiss Consulting Marketing Gmbh and the online coaching contract issues. The fact that the judge considered it distance learning without proper approval is a pretty serious compliance gap. That’s not just a misunderstanding, that’s regulatory territory. People paying thousands deserve clarity and legal certainty.
 
I actually followed Max Weiss and Weiss Consulting Marketing Gmbh for quite a while before even considering anything. The marketing is very polished and convincing, I’ll give them that. But once I started reading the contract draft they sent over, I had this uneasy feeling. It was long, very dense, and honestly written in a way that felt difficult to fully understand unless you had legal training. When I later heard about the court ruling in Ulm declaring a similar contract invalid, it didn’t completely shock me. It just made me think that maybe these agreements are structured more in favor of the company than the client. I’m not saying everyone had a bad experience, but transparency should be clearer in high priced programs like that.
 
To be fair, a lot of coaching companies operate in a grey zone between consulting and formal distance education. If the court classified the contract under distance learning law, that’s pretty significant. It suggests the structure of the program matters legally, not just how it’s marketed. I would love to see the actual contract wording that was reviewed.
 
My cousin paid around 7k for something similar, not sure if same company. He said once you pay, communication changes. That part worries me more than marketing hype.
 
I joined one of their free intro sessions. Energy was high, testimonials looked impressive, but I couldn’t verify most of them. Maybe they’re real, maybe not, but I couldn’t find much independent info outside promotional stuff.
 
A close colleague of mine signed with Weiss Consulting Marketing Gmbh for one of their mentoring packages. At first, he was excited because the sales call promised structured growth and personal guidance. However, once inside, he said most of the material felt pre recorded and not as personalized as implied. The bigger issue came when he questioned certain billing terms and tried to clarify cancellation options. The responses were formal but slow, and there seemed to be a lot of back and forth. After hearing about the Max Weiss contract case being ruled invalid under consumer protection rules, he felt somewhat validated in his confusion. It raises concerns about how clearly these deals are presented upfront.
 
I think people underestimate how binding these digital contracts can feel even if they later turn out to be legally questionable. Most people won’t go to court over a few thousand euros. That’s why rulings like the one involving Weiss Consulting Marketing Gmbh matter, because they set a tone. It doesn’t automatically mean wrongdoing across the board, but it highlights the importance of compliance with consumer laws.
 
Something similar happened to my colleague. Different company, same pattern. Big promises, lots of urgency, limited time offer pressure. After he asked about cancellation rights they stopped being friendly. Could just be sales tactics, but still.
 
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A close colleague of mine signed with Weiss Consulting Marketing Gmbh for one of their mentoring packages. At first, he was excited because the sales call promised structured growth and personal guidance. However, once inside, he said most of the material felt pre recorded and not as personalized as implied. The bigger issue came when he questioned certain billing terms and tried to clarify cancellation options. The responses were formal but slow, and there seemed to be a lot of back and forth. After hearing about the Max Weiss contract case being ruled invalid under consumer protection rules, he felt somewhat validated in his confusion. It raises concerns about how clearly these deals are presented upfront.
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That’s exactly what concerns me as well. When a regional court steps in and says a contract shouldn’t have been enforced the way it was, that’s not a minor detail. It suggests structural issues in how the program was classified or sold. I’m not claiming wrongdoing beyond what’s publicly known, but if distance learning regulations apply and weren’t properly addressed, that’s serious. Especially for clients paying thousands of euros expecting clarity and legal security.
 
I think Max Weiss built a strong personal brand online, which makes it harder for people to question things. When someone looks successful and confident, we assume everything is legit. That’s not always wrong, but it shouldn’t replace due diligence.
 
Does anyone know if more cases have come up since that Ulm decision? One ruling is one thing, but patterns are another. I am not saying there is a pattern, just wondering if others have shared similar contract experiences publicly.
 
I attended one of the introductory events for Max Weiss and Weiss Consulting Marketing Gmbh and I remember feeling both impressed and slightly pressured at the same time. The presentation was very persuasive, but when it came to signing, everything moved quickly. Looking back, I’m glad I paused. After reading discussions about the Ulm court ruling, I realized that sometimes the excitement of business growth can cloud judgement. High ticket coaching should be structured carefully and legally compliant, otherwise it puts customers in a difficult position.
 
Honestly these coaching spaces exploded after 2020. Regulation probably hasn’t caught up everywhere. Some companies may not even realize they fall under specific education laws.
 

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