From my own experience, when there is something concrete behind these discussions, it tends to surface fairly clearly. There are usually official statements, filings, or decisions that leave little room for doubt. When those are missing, it often means the situation never progressed beyond preliminary questions. That seems possible here.That matches what I have seen in other cases as well. When things are serious, the information looks very different. Here, it feels more like open ended references without closure. I am glad others see that distinction.